Monday, January 28, 2008

C12 - Haji Ali's Lesson

"Sit down. And shut your mouth,’"Haji Ali said, "You’re making everyone crazy…"



"...We may be uneducated. But we are not stupid. We have lived and survived here for a long time." "That day, Haji Ali taught me the most important lesson I’ve ever learned in my life, Mortensen says …. " (p150)

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1. What life lesson did Mortenson learn from this uneducated, illiterate man? Your answer must use supporting statements taken from the text to defend your statements.
2. Describe in detail a situation in your life where you have learned a valuable life lesson from another person, place or experience. Or, you may use the same lesson that Mortenson learned from Haji Ali and relate it to your own experiences.
3. After you have posted your answers to questions 1 & 2, read through other students comments and choose one to post a response back. List the name of the student you chose and comment back on both their answer to number 1 and their life lesson in number 2.

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Jesse_Sheets said...
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thomas"theman"repta said...

1. What life lesson did Mortenson learn from this uneducated, illiterate man? Your answer must use supporting statements taken from the text to defend your statements.
people will not know that you can't read if you carrie around a book.
2. Describe in detail a situation in your life where you have learned a valuable life lesson from another person, place or experience.
I learnd not to call a Chief Master Sergeant "sir" durring the fist 30 secints at ET1.
3. After you have posted your answers to questions 1 & 2, read through other students comments and choose one to post a response back. List the name of the student you chose and comment back on both their answer to number 1 and their life lesson in number 2.
jesse sheets
The important lesson that Greg learned was that you need to slow down and take time to do things. We Americans have to get everything done fast. I know this because the Greg said "We Americans think you have to acomplish things quickly. Were the country of 30 minute power lunches..." page 150.
One of the most valuable life lessons I've learned, is probably from when I went to Peru on a missions trip this summer. We went to an orphanage and I saw that the kids there had no personel items, they all shared everything. Even though they didn't have much the kids were full of joy and love because they were at the orphange instead of being on the street.So I learned That I shouldn't hold so much value in the things I own and be happy with the life that I've got.
i dissagree with this oppinion becuse it is optomistic and different from mine

Jon Bryant said...

Mortenson learned that just because he is the boss doesn't mean he has to get it all done right away, "There has been no school here for over 500 years, we can live 1 more winter."
said, Haji.
he learned to just sit back and let the workers get the job done, just have 3 cups of tea and relax, it will be done.
"later that year the wall on the school had grown much taller." from book.

From cross country i learned a very worth while life lesson. "What you put into life is what you can get out of life." What that means to me is you can't just go through life and not expect to give anything, love, money, time, effort ect. Like in Cross Country or any other sport you have to go to practice and push yourself to the limit you can take just to get through the work out or to better yourself. Same as in school you have to put in reports and work, time, just to succeed.

Desiree Badizadegan said...

1. He learned the lesson that he had more to learn from the people he works with than he could ever hope to teach them. He learned that life is a give and take situation. You might want to teach someone something, but they might want to teach you something. You can't be closed minded, and not willing to listen to what other people have to say. Haji Ali also taught him to slow down and make building relationships as important as building projects. This means that he should worry about the people as well as the outcome of their work.
2. My family likes to travel a lot, and one of the destinations we go to most is Mexico. Some of the cities there are so poor, and the residents don't have any place to live. It has taught me that I (as well as all other Americans (from the US) have a much better life than most people in countries outside of the United States. We take everything for granted here, and not many people seem to see that we have it easy compared to others.

Ian G said...

I think that the lesson Mortenson learned was one of patience. He learned that slowing down and enjoying life instead of rushing through blindly toward a goal, is in most situations better.
Once a man named Oliver taught me to lose graciously. One can't expect to be the best, 'cause there's always someone who's way better than you, and that's why we struggle.
Thomas: This student can't spell and has little of that outside his military life.

BCray said...

1) The lesson Greg learned here was that even though people may have less education or expierence they do not need to be "micromanaged".
2) "The willing are made capable, not the capable willing"
This was a quote on a sign down in New Orleans that some members of a volunteer construction group put up. To me it means that if your willing to put forth an effort you will learn how to do things, and those who already know how to do things won't always put forth an effort to do it.

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Brandon Stead said...

The life lesson that Mortenson learned is you need to slow down and not get too into your work. "Sit down. And shut your mouth," Haji Ali said."You're making everyone crazy." (150)

When I went to the Virgin Islands we visited a run down town in St. Paul my whole family had this vibe like we wanted to do something about this village. We knew we couldn't but after that my family and I all had a different mood and we all tried our hardest to be nice. I learned that the way some Americans take almost everything for granted makes me sick. That there are people in foreign countries who don't have anywhere near as much as we do and yet some of us complain about what WE don't have.

leonardo I. said...

That they may not be dressed in the fanciest clothes, or have all these degree’s or even be that educated but they have done it their way for years and it’s always worked for them. I remember when I was taught that you are not supposed to hit a soccer ball with the top of your head but rather your forehead. The reason you do this so that way if the ball is too hard when you head it, you wont get a concussion.

BCray said...

Ian G's comment: I agree with what he said about there always being someone better then you. If you expect to be good at everything you do then life will really suck- becuase you won't be good at everything.

Desiree Badizadegan said...

Jon Bryant said:
"Mortenson learned that just because he is the boss doesn't mean he has to get it all done right away, "There has been no school here for over 500 years, we can live 1 more winter."
said, Haji.
he learned to just sit back and let the workers get the job done, just have 3 cups of tea and relax, it will be done.
"later that year the wall on the school had grown much taller." from book.

From cross country i learned a very worth while life lesson. "What you put into life is what you can get out of life." What that means to me is you can't just go through life and not expect to give anything, love, money, time, effort ect. Like in Cross Country or any other sport you have to go to practice and push yourself to the limit you can take just to get through the work out or to better yourself. Same as in school you have to put in reports and work, time, just to succeed."

1. I think that the school "grew much taller" because the people weren't as stressed about it, and they weren't as annoyed with Mortenson. There is a term in psychology called "Anal Expulsive" which means that you don't do things when you are told to, because you like to do things on your own terms. The workers were probably working slower because Mortenson was breathing down their necks and causing them to be annoyed. Once Mortenson stopped "controlling" them (so to speak) they started working faster.

2. I agree with this lesson. If you never give anything, you don't deserve to take anything. It's kind of like the lesson, "Always do unto others as you would have them do unto you." If you don't want to be a homeless bum with no job, then you should probably go to school so you can get a job to make money to buy a house.

alisha kelton said...

I think the life lesson Mortenson learned was to take things slow. People in Afghanistan aren’t in a rush all the time to get things done. They take their time in what they do and they have patience. That is a very valuable life skill.

One of the most valuable life lessons I have learned is that it doesn’t take money and riches to make someone happy. On previous mission trips I have met children that hardly have anything and they were so happy to have what little they did. It meant the world to them that someone would build them a small brick house and they ran around full of excitement and happiness just for that. I think a lot of people take what they have for granite and think that they have it bad, when in reality they have it really good.

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Jenny Tambe said...

1. Morteson learned that how fast the school was built was not important. The important thing about buidging this school is that you respect eachother and help eachother. He learned that in Balti life is all about family and enjoying life. He also learned that the Balti people are very giving and kind people, which is so much different from the people in america. He learned that he has to slow down and share "three cups of tea."
2. Recenty I have been really stressed, because of the stress i have been really bossy and irritated. My mom noticed the unusual behavior and explained to me that I am only 17 years old and i shouldnt have so much stress. She told me not to worry about things that dont matter and to stop stressing over nothing. At first I was mad that she didnt understand the pressure of beeing a teenager, but then I realized that she was right. I realized that stressing over school and work isnt something that I should be worryig about right now. I learned that I should be out having fun with friends and enjoying life.

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Cara Lumpkin said...

1. Mortenson learned that you can learn from all kinds of people, everyone has a different position on life. If you slow down enough to listen to different people no matter how different they are, then you can learn something new and better yourself as a person. Mortenson says that Americans seem to think we have to do everything quickly and have a rush rush attitude about everything, but the people of Korphe have patience, nothing HAS to be done now. Mortenson learns that he can slow down too. He doesn’t have to stress himself out but trying to rush a process that is going to take along time whether he wants it to or not. Build relationships, because friendships will last longer than any building process. If you take the time to make them then you can learn that person’s lesson on life (like when Haji Ali tells Mortenson to slow down and drink three cups of tea with him).
2. When I went to a concert performed by Paul Green’s School of Rock Music my best friend and I stayed at Alan Singley’s house. He is such an interesting person; his entire life revolves around music. Don’t get me wrong I love music, but literally all he does revolves around music. He is in a band that isn’t extremely popular (he is on a record label and everything, but he’s not well known at all). He teaches private lessons and works at one of Paul Green’s School of Rock Music. He has an okay apartment, but basically he just studies music and writes songs for his band. It was so amazing to have my eyes opened to entirely different lifestyle. I didn’t know someone could be so passionate about something that they literally don’t need anything else. He is so passionate about music, it’s his job his hobbies his conversations EVERYTHING. It was seriously amazing to experience that for a weekend.

Jesse_Sheets said...

The important lesson that Greg learned was that you need to slow down and take time to do things. We Americans have to get everything done fast. I know this because the Greg said "We Americans think you have to acomplish things quickly. Were the country of 30 minute power lunches..." page 150.
One of the most valuable life lessons I've learned, is probably from when I went to Peru on a missions trip this summer. We went to an orphanage and I saw that the kids there had no personel items, they all shared everything. Even though they didn't have much the kids were full of joy and love because they were at the orphange instead of being on the street.So I learned That I shouldn't hold so much value in the things I own and be happy with the life that I've got. I'm commenting on Jon Bryant's response. In question one, he said, "Mortenson learned that just because he is the boss doesn't mean he has to get it all done right away, "There has been no school here for over 500 years, we can live 1 more winter."
said, Haji. he learned to just sit back and let the workers get the job done, just have 3 cups of tea and relax, it will be done.
"later that year the wall on the school had grown much taller." from book."
In number 2 he said, From cross country i learned a very worth while life lesson. "What you put into life is what you can get out of life." What that means to me is you can't just go through life and not expect to give anything, love, money, time, effort ect. Like in Cross Country or any other sport you have to go to practice and push yourself to the limit you can take just to get through the work out or to better yourself. Same as in school you have to put in reports and work, time, just to succeed. I like his ideas because They are true, you can only get out of life what you put into it. If you don't put anything into it you won't get anywhere.

Jon Bryant said...

Desiree said

1. He learned the lesson that he had more to learn from the people he works with than he could ever hope to teach them. He learned that life is a give and take situation. You might want to teach someone something, but they might want to teach you something. You can't be closed minded, and not willing to listen to what other people have to say. Haji Ali also taught him to slow down and make building relationships as important as building projects. This means that he should worry about the people as well as the outcome of their work.
2. My family likes to travel a lot, and one of the destinations we go to most is Mexico. Some of the cities there are so poor, and the residents don't have any place to live. It has taught me that I (as well as all other Americans (from the US) have a much better life than most people in countries outside of the United States. We take everything for granted here, and not many people seem to see that we have it easy compared to others.


I totally agree with this lesson, many of Americans take all that they have for grated, "we don't have enough";"We need a bigger TV"; Our house needs more space." the list of things goes on and on. While other people all over the world doesn't even have a place to live or even eat a meal everyday.

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Anonymous said...

1. Mortenson’s life lesson learned from Haji Ali was that he needed to slow things down and not always rush through things. He also learned a great lesson when the men came to demand 12 rams to allow Korphe to keep the school. Haji Ali, without hesitation, gave the rams. This he did so his children could have the best future he could offer. Mortenson learned a great lesson of sacrifice. A poor, illiterate man, basically sacrificing all he had for the betterment of his children and the children of Korphe.
2. When I was a little kid I and my family went to a relatives’ house to go swimming. As soon as I saw the pool I ran and jumped in the deep end. I didn’t even know how to swim. My mom freaked out and jumped in and saved me. I learned that day that I was mortal.

Alex-Trujillo said...

1. He is a wise man because of what he said on page 150 when he is talking about sharing one cup of tea you’re a stranger two honored guest and the third you become family. Then he talks about being here for many years and not being educated but also not being stupid.
2. Probably from my mom when she talks about how I should cherish what I have and not be so materialistic because there are people out there that cant have what I have and you don’t really know what they mean until you lose it.
3. I think what John Bryant said was true about Haji being very wise when he said that they have lived without a school for 500 years what’s one more winter.

Jenny Tambe said...

alisha kelton said...
I think the life lesson Mortenson learned was to take things slow. People in Afghanistan aren’t in a rush all the time to get things done. They take their time in what they do and they have patience. That is a very valuable life skill.

One of the most valuable life lessons I have learned is that it doesn’t take money and riches to make someone happy. On previous mission trips I have met children that hardly have anything and they were so happy to have what little they did. It meant the world to them that someone would build them a small brick house and they ran around full of excitement and happiness just for that. I think a lot of people take what they have for granite and think that they have it bad, when in reality they have it really good.


I agree with what she said. Morteson did learn to take things slow. Building a relationship is as important as building the actual building.

I also agree that it doesnt take money to make you happy, even though our society thinks it does, if you have your family and friends that should be enough to make you happy.

Barri Glazier said...

He learned that just because Americans have much money and they have many people to get things done, that doesn’t mean that other countries do to. They get things done just as good in a longer amount of time because they aren’t equipped with the assets as America. Like Haji said “You are driving us all crazy” that means that he putting to much pressure on everyone about the school. They will get it done there way not the American way.

2.At my old school in Grants Pass (Hidden Vally High school) I learned my Valuable life lesson. This was around Christmas time during my sophomore year. I was walking down the metals shop hall and this kid came up to me and started calling me names because I was hanging out with his ex girlfriend. When he started to get in my face I flipped out. I looked at him and said “Back Off”, when I said that he got even madder but then for some reason he walked off. Then all of a sudden he turned around and called me a name. All of a sudden started to go at him and I hit him, right after that a teacher turned the corner and enter the hall we where in. the teacher stopped him from hitting me and we got sent to the office. I told the dean what happened and he explained what I did wrong and then we talked about the reasons why it’s dumb to fight and that things don’t always get solved by fighting. That was my life lesson that I learned. It was a common lesson that everyone should know but that day it made me realize it more in-depth understanding.

3.Thomas“Theman”repta
1. That is a good answer to the question.
2. That’s a good life lesson if you plan on going in one of the military branch’s

Brandon Fry said...

1. He learned that Americans think that they have to accomplish things quickly, and so he learned that he needed to take the time to build project relationships which is just as important as actually finishing the project

2. A life lesson that I learned was to always try to have a positive attitude. I learned this from my dad because every time that I would have a rough day, he would tell me that I could either go and make to best out of the situation or that I could go and make it a terrible day by having a bad attitude.

Kayla Bowman said...

1. What life lesson did Mortenson learn from this uneducated, illiterate man he describes as the "wisest man I've ever met?" Your answer must use supporting statements taken from the text to defend your statements.
-I think that Mortenson learned a lot about patience and waiting. I know that in America we tend to move a lot faster paced then most of the world. The workers of the school were not in hurry and drank a lot of tea. Mortenson did not understand this. The workers said that they did not care another winter without the school because they had not had one there before and they lived without it. Even though he wanted it faster paced, he realized that it might be better to go slow.
2. Describe in detail a situation in your life where you have learned a valuable life lesson from another person, place or experience.
- A few days ago I had an idea of raising a steer for fair. I have always wanted to raise one and a friend of a friend had one for sale. I decided to take my chances. I went and looked at him and fell in love. Sure he was cute, but was he tame? I had no clue what I had gotten myself into. When I got him home he went crazy, kicking me and biting me. The thing is is that I just have to make the best of it and make him like me, no matter what. Out of this ordeal I thought to myself, maybe I should think about things a lot longer next time.

S.Meracle said...

1. The life lesson that Mortenson learned the day Haji Ali told him to "Sit down. And shut your mouth, you're making everyone crazy..." was to take time out of life to smell the roses and to slow down and realize that faster isn’t always better. He basically told Mortenson that if he wants to work here with the people of Pakistan he needs to act like someone from Pakistan. He needs to understand the customs and believes of the people of Pakistan and do it that way. More people are willing to participate more if they are doing something familiar and when they are comfortable. A persons first reaction to change is to rebel and to become defensive.
2. This story is very personal. Okay... I was in the 8th grade; my best friend was Matt Perez. I had a huge crush on him! Anyway, he was going through a Goth stage and asked me to bring my make up to school with me and put some black eye liner on him to make him look like he was crying or something. So I did it and he looked in the mirror and decided that he was too embarrassed to go to class with make up on because everyone thought he was gay anyways. So he asked me to follow him into the male restroom and show him how to take it off. So I did, and as I entered the restroom one of the coaches walked in and I hid in the stall. He asked me to come out and show myself, I hesitated and then stepped out. He walked me to the office and sat me in the principal’s office, I sat in there for a great while because they did not know what to with me, I am proud to be the first girl to be caught in the men’s restroom that the staff at that time knew of. Anyways they gave me detention and a referral. When I got home I lied to my mom about what the referral was for. Long story short, the guilt was overwhelming and I told her the truth. The life lesson I learned was never go into a men’s restroom AT SCHOOL and to tell the truth because it's not worth loosing trust over.

leonardo I. said...

I agree with the interpretation that Ms. Kelton gave, it’s similar to what a interpreted from the passage as far as that speedy is not always better. Sometimes it’s better to take your time and be passionate about your work, that way you can appreciate what you have, and the children can appreciate what they have been given.

Brandon Stead said...

Brandon Frye
1. He learned that Americans think that they have to accomplish things quickly, and so he learned that he needed to take the time to build project relationships which is just as important as actually finishing the project

My Response- project relationships are always good to have and it is more important than actually finishing the project.

Brandon Frye
2. A life lesson that I learned was to always try to have a positive attitude. I learned this from my dad because every time that I would have a rough day, he would tell me that I could either go and make to best out of the situation or that I could go and make it a terrible day by having a bad attitude.

My Response- whenever I have a bad day, I always try and keep a good attitude and make the best of the situation.

Cara Lumpkin said...

Alisha Kelton

I totally agree with Alisha, Mortenson did learn to take things slowly like the people of Afghanistan, but I think that he also learned that he should take the friendships of the people he’s trying to help more seriously because he needs to understand their cultures in order to try to better their towns. Like when Haji Ali talked to Mortenson about not being able to move the mountains, you basically have to work with them. Just like Mortenson has to work with the people of Korphe to get the school finished instead of bossing them around.

I can totally understand why that would be a life lesson. That would be a really cool experience. I think that people in America do take a lot of things granted, and I hate it when people say they are having a horrible day when really there are thousands of people have a worse time off.

Anonymous said...

I’m responding to Brandon Fry’s comment.
1. I agree with Brandon, when he said that Mortenson needed to slow down and worry more about making new friends. He needed to respect the slow and steady culture of Korphe.
2. I also totally agree that it’s all up to you on how your day goes by your attitude. You have to choose for yourself.

Mike Murphy said...

1) Mortenson learn you need to take time to do things. "America is the country to 30 minute power lunches and 2 minute football drills" "Sit down and enjoy 3 cups of Tea" we dont ever take time to enjoy life everything has to be over as soon as it started so we can move on we judge ourselves on what we have done more than how we got to the point we are now

2) One of the most valuable lessons i have learned is when my grandparents died it made me relized to enjoy life and have fun until the end no matter what you go through. My grandfather loved life and didnt let anything get him down you would always see him smiling and making jokes he had a fun life


3)
Brandon Stead:

The life lesson that Mortenson learned is you need to slow down and not get too into your work. "Sit down. And shut your mouth," Haji Ali said."You're making everyone crazy." (150)

I agree with that but i also think he was trying to say also build your realationships with people is more im[ortant than the work it self the project will get done in its own time


When I went to the Virgin Islands we visited a run down town in St. Paul my whole family had this vibe like we wanted to do something about this village. We knew we couldn't but after that my family and I all had a different mood and we all tried our hardest to be nice. I learned that the way some Americans take almost everything for granted makes me sick. That there are people in foreign countries who don't have anywhere near as much as we do and yet some of us complain about what WE don't have.

Thats a good lesson i wish i could go to the Virgan Island

Mark Gladman said...

1. Mortenson learned that, contrary to the belief of much of the "civilized" world, life does not have to go by in overdrive. "'We Americans think you have to accomplish everything quickly. We're the country of thirty-minute power lunches and two-minute football drills..." Sometimes, we must slow down, take a moment to breathe the air, feel the wind, watch the tides rise and fall. We have to realize that taking time to build relationships is by far more important than constructing buildings. "Haji Ali taught me to share three cups of tea, to slow down and make building relationships as important as building projects."

2. One of the most influential life lessons that ever happened to me was after my 7th grade soccer team finished a second undefeated season. My coach pulled me aside to talk to me. He said, "Gladman, you've worked through some tough spots this year, pulled the team through more than once. Just remember, this sport isn't about how many goals you make, how many shots you block, or how many times you set foot on that field, it's about how much you love, not only the game, but life; and that applies to anything you do." That conversation has stuck with me constantly; and even in years that I was too busy to play soccer, I still remembered that talk, and it really has had a profound effect on my life.

Crystal Stewart said...

1. What life lesson did Mortenson learn from this uneducated, illiterate man? Your answer must use supporting statements taken from the text to defend your statements.

“We Americans think you have to accomplish everything quickly…” “Haji Ali taught me to share three cups of tea, to slow down and make building relationships as important as building projects. He taught me that I had more to learn from the people I work with than I could ever hope to teach them.” (Pg 150)

How are you expecting to convince someone to buy your product if you aren’t personal with them?

How do you expect to learn if you only do what you know how to do rather than learn and take ideas from other people?

Time is such a factor these days that our eyes are only focused on getting something done. I feel as though if we took time to be more personable with our customers and with people in general not only would we have a stronger economy (whether statistics show it or not) but a better society as a people…a whole. Maybe the kind of society like Korphe…one that is indestructible because of these bonds.
There are three things that will endure forever -- faith, hope, and love -- and the greatest of these is love.” 1 Corinthians 13
Haji Ali seems to be investing in the things that will eternally last…making it count by loving others…not investing every part of himself into “things” like Americans seem to be doing more and more as technology becomes a more prominent part of our culture.

There’s a reason why the bible talks so much about love…because it is through love that Christ died for us…and when we love others…or even take the time to talk to others, get to know them, and adapt to their culture, everything else falls into place.


2. Describe in detail a situation in your life where you have learned a valuable life lesson from another person, place or experience.

While doing the BMW display project, I wanted to practice listening to people and putting our ideas together into one.

This really helped our project come out better than I could imagine. Someone suggested the car to be suspended to where it looked like it was flying.

Awesome, right?

I’m very glad for the opportunity to build my skill of being personable with people before trying to execute my own ideas.
If it would have been just me doing the project it would have probably been amazing…but with everyone else it turned out amazing-er. :)

Your Lyla said...

1. In that moment Mortenson learned and realized that everything doesn’t have to be done overnight and as fast as possible. “We Americans think you have to accomplish everything quickly. We’re the country of thirty-minute power lunches and two-minute football drills…Haji taught me to share three cups of tea, to slow down and make building relationships as important as building projects.”(pg. 150) This made Mortenson step back and realize that he is living with different traditions and ways, and that it is time to respect them. He needs to make time to know that it is important to get to know this culture as much as he just wants to get the school done.
2. There is a life lesson that I learned from my dearest friend back when I was about 12 years old. It was said to me in the context to pertain to showing cattle, but I have made it so that it fits with everything that I do. It is that you are only as good as your competitor, and that to be a good winner you have to be a good loser. It seems that in everything society does today, it feels like we are all in competition with each other and sometimes when we do well or win, our heads blow up to the size of balloons. We don’t stop and think of what we are doing; saying and making people feel when we become cocky because of a win. I always remind myself after a win in the show ring that I do not need to tell the world or go around acting like I know everything, and when I loose after winning a show before, I have to make sure that I don’t get an attitude and go of rampaging about how stupid the judge was. This is because of the lesson I was taught that to be a good winner you have to have to ability to be a good loser.

Mark Gladman said...

Desiree Badizadegan said...
1. He learned the lesson that he had more to learn from the people he works with than he could ever hope to teach them. He learned that life is a give and take situation. You might want to teach someone something, but they might want to teach you something. You can't be closed minded, and not willing to listen to what other people have to say. Haji Ali also taught him to slow down and make building relationships as important as building projects. This means that he should worry about the people as well as the outcome of their work.
2. My family likes to travel a lot, and one of the destinations we go to most is Mexico. Some of the cities there are so poor, and the residents don't have any place to live. It has taught me that I (as well as all other Americans (from the US) have a much better life than most people in countries outside of the United States. We take everything for granted here, and not many people seem to see that we have it easy compared to others.

1. I agree with Desiree, you must slow down and live life, and you also have to be willing to learn from others.

2. This is a really great example of why we as Americans really do not have a reason to complain about much of anything. Because, bottom line, we have it better than much of the rest of the world. Hundreds of millions of people suffer every day, living without a house, clothing, food, etc.. and they don't even complain about it! If we could just take that mindset, life would be a lot better.

Brandon Fry said...

1. Jake knows exactly what the lesson was. He definitely read his stuff and knows what he is talking about. I think that he explained it very well.
2. I guess that he learned that lesson the hard way, and I am sure that lesson stuck with him

Aaron Croslow said...

1. Greg went into building the school as the boss essentially, and he wanted things done his way, at his speed. when Haji Ali told him that he was making everyone crazy, greg realized that he can't make everything run his way, and that you need to slow down and relax sometimes.
2. when i broke up with my girlfriend of a year and a half, my dad kept saying "things have a way of working out" and at the time i didnt think much of it, but when i look back on it, that is really true, given enough time things always work out for the best, it may not be exactly what you wanted but it still works out for the best.

alisha kelton said...

Response to Leo
I agree. They aren’t as educated as us and their way of living is different and they are ok with that. Like Haji Ali said they don’t need all the extra stuff, they use what they have and have survived of it for a long time.

Hitting a soccer ball on your forehead is a good lesson to learn because it will save you a lot of concussions in the future. Also if your not injured in the game you will have a better change of succeeding in winning, so its good that you lean that.

Aaron Croslow said...

about ian G.'s comment.

that is totally true, and i think that is for the best...if you were the best at somethings, or everything life would be such a drag

leonardo I. said...

I agree with the interpretation that Ms. Kelton gave, it’s similar to what a interpreted from the passage as far as that speedy is not always better, sometimes it’s better to take your time and be passionate about your work, that way you can appreciate what you have, and the children can appreciate what they have been given. I agree that money and riches brings us temporary happiness but in the long run it doesn’t matter the amount of money you have, because it can never buy you happiness.

Anna Roberts said...

Basically, Rome wasn’t built in a day. He learned that it is important to take your time and be respectful. While he was up being the foremen and making people crazy, he wasn’t the one doing the work. Like he said, he tried to be “a tough but fair taskmaster.”

Hmm. Picking a life lesson is really hard. Most of the time life lessons don’t hit you like a ton of bricks; they are the little everyday things that you learn from. Other times though, they do just drop on your head like a piano. The only thing that I can think of really, is, if you are going to do something that you might get in trouble for, make sure it’s worth it. Because if, at the end of the day, you can say that it was worth it, then the trouble won’t matter.

Commenting on Jesse Sheets:
I think what Jesse said about his life lesson is cool. I think that people get to wrapped up in material possesions and forget about what is important.

I think he made some good points with answering the first question also.

Kel Lenneah said...

1. I believe that he learned the lesson about how to lead people from this man. He learned to lead was not to try and get everything done in a hurry and not care about any body to get it done. When leading should be about taking the time to do the job right and to create relationships. Like the drinking of the tea in Pakistan is a powerful ally to have in convincing people to do anything in Pakistan. See if you have only three cups of tea in the home of a family you are considered family.
2. There was one time that I believe that I was taught a life lesson by someone else. It happened to be my middle school history teacher and he said this in the midst of the largest project of the year. The project was a group project and none of the other members of my group were interested in doing anything to help the project get finished let alone be A worthy so the burden was placed on me. And I was stressing about my grade and my teacher said that he saw what was happening and he would grade accordingly. The lesson was what he said right after that he said “Live life to the fullest and never look back.”

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Obed said...

1. What life lesson did Mortenson learn from this uneducated, illiterate man? Your answer must use supporting statements taken from the text to defend your statements.
That you cand just get one opinion wich is yourself becuse if your in a nother culture you have to listern to the people becuse they know the land and they know how things get done better and faster. And just cuz you are an illiterate person dosnt mean that you dont know how to run your business.

2. Describe in detail a situation in your life where you have learned a valuable life lesson from another person, place or experience.
As a young kid i used to annoy manny people and i never really got to meat anyone but know that im older i know what i did wrong and now i have this little kid that is annoying like crazy and wont leave me alon but i be good to him cuz i know how i felt when i was his age.


3. After you have posted your answers to questions 1 & 2, read through other students comments and choose one to post a response back. List the name of the student you chose and comment back on both their answer to number 1 and their life lesson in number 2.

I agree whith leonardo
in that some people dont need fancy cloths to know how to do the job but that dosnt mean that their not smart.

S.Meracle said...

I read Obed's comment:
1. What Obed said was very true, I agree 100%. I think It is also important to add something that a teacher named T-Bone told all of CSB some time ago, always do research on the country that you are going to. It is important to know customs and believes and to follow them.
2. It is super nice of you, Obed to treat that kid like you would have wanted to be treated when you were a child. This could mean alot to this child, and could effect him in a very positive manner. Good for you! You are very wize and kind.

Kaylie Lush said...

1. The life lesson that Haji Ali taught Mortenson was probably one that is most useful and wise because it showed Mortenson that he was pushing the people of Korphe in the American fast pace style ('We Americans think you have to acommplish everything quickly'). If Mortenson slowed down and took in the importance of other peoples' knowledge he would have realized their methods and traditions were to be learned from ('The first time you have tea with a Balti you are a stranger. The second time you are an honored guest. And the third time you share a cup of tea, you are family'). If Mortenson respected the methods of the Korphe villagers he could have realized the slower you go the more you learn.
I believe that Mortenson called Haji Ali the wisest man he had ever met because Ali noticed and observed things about people and life in general that Mortenson would have never noticed. Also that Ali saw people in this pure way and in the way of three cups of tea, treated a person as family only after three cups.
2. My life lesson relates to Mortensons' in that when working in a group or as a team their always tends to be a person that tries to get everyone to do things their way. I learned that if I do tasks my own way and time I can do them to a higher quality and faster than in someone else's way.

Erica Guches said...

Chapter 12-
1. I believe that Mortenson's life lesson was that everything doesn't need to be a race. You need to take things slowly and do them right. As Greg Mortenson said "We Americans think you have to acomplish things quickly. Were the counrty of 30 minute power lunches..." (pg. 150). Mortenson learned that you need to enjoy what you are doing with the people that you are with. Greg said, "Haji Ali taught me to share three cups of tea, to slow down and make building relationships as important as building projects." (pg.150)

2. I have learned from situations that you need to just learn from your mistake that you have done. You would not be the same person if you didn't make mistakes, because the things that you did wrong makes you a stronger and more knowledgeable person.

3.
Mckensie Crawford- 1. I agree with Mckensie because we both think that you need to take things slow and be patient. You need to have relationships with people and don't rush. 2. I also agree with Mckensie on the life lesson because you just need to be patient and everything will work out in the end...it always does.

Jason Pardee said...

I think the lesson Greg learned was to take things slow. Sit back and relax a little. In my opinion thats one of the best lessons in life.

One experience that taught me a life lesson was when I was lost in the woods. I had to sit down and be patient, wait it out. If i were to leave, or go far from where I had lost the trail, no one would find me.

1
Thomas "The Man" Repta
Thomas, I think thats an interesting idea.
2
Thats a good lesson to learn, it will help you a lot in college.

SarahMete said...

1. I believe that Mortenson learned that intelligence isn't always knowledge accumulated from books and that there are many types of intelligence. Even though Haji Ali was uneducated and illiterate, Mortenson still learned a vast amount from this loyal individual. One thing he displayed to Mortenson was that Americans are known for completing tasks at a fast pace and are only focused on quantity rather than quality. The book states

“We Americans think you have to accomplish everything quickly. We're the country of thirty-minute power lunches and two-minute football drills. Our leaders thought their 'shock and awe' campaign could end the war in Iraq before it even started. Haji Ali taught me to share three cups of tea, to slow down and make building relationships as important as building projects. He taught me that I had more to learn from the people I work with than I could ever hope to teach them.”

Haji Ali may have been illiterate but he still obtain knowledge that can be even more useful than facts printed in a book.

2. I would consider myself to be a competitive person and I enjoying winning. When participating in gymnastics I would dedicate my time to practicing and striving for the top of the podium. During a meet in Santa Barbara I was competing against more girls and ended up falling short of my goal. However, my coach asked if I was satisfied with my performance rather than score. After reviewing my progress up until the meet and performance during the meet I realized I was content with myself.

This experience made me realize that winning isn't everything and that one shouldb't just focus on the prize. One should value their progress and be happy with their accomplishments, even if its not first place.

SarahMete said...

Mike Murphy states,

"Mortenson learn you need to take time to do things. "America is the country to 30 minute power lunches and 2 minute football drills" "Sit down and enjoy 3 cups of Tea" we dont ever take time to enjoy life everything has to be over as soon as it started so we can move on we judge ourselves on what we have done more than how we got to the point we are now."


I would have to agree with his response. Americans don't take the time to truly value everything present in our lives. We are so busy trying to accomplish multiple tasks that we don't take time to realize what is going on around us. We also don't realize that we have can disappear at any given moment. I feel that American's need to slow down our way of life and cherish everything around us.


2. Mike Murphy also states,

"One of the most valuable lessons i have learned is when my grandparents died it made me relized to enjoy life and have fun until the end no matter what you go through. My grandfather loved life and didnt let anything get him down you would always see him smiling and making jokes he had a fun life"

I am sorry for his grandparents deaths but I am glad he was able to learn a valuable life lesson from this terrible tragedy. I agree with the way his grandparents lived their life and I feel everyone should live with the same beliefs. I believe our society needs to cherish everything we have and make everyday worth remembering. One isn't able to know the length of their life span so they should live everyday with no regrets and have fun!

McKensie Crawford said...

1. I think that Mortenson learned patience form Haji Ali. I also think that Mortenson learned that the ways of other civilizations are much different than the fast past ways ways of Americans, and that it is often better to slow down and build relationships with people when working on projects.
"If you want to thrive in Baltistan, you must respect our ways..." (pg. 150)
"Doctor Greg, you must take time to share three cups of tea. We may be uneducated. But we are not stupid. We haved lived and survived here for a long time." (pg. 150)
When Haji Ali says that he needs to take the time for three cups he is refering to the Pakistan custom of drinking tea while building relationships.
2. I, like Mortenson, have also learned that it is better to have patience. I sometimes worry about how things will work out and usually, after a little bit of time, they work out just fine.

I am going to respond to Obed's comments.

1. That you dont need to be a rich man or even a literate person to now how to treat a person. And that you have to understand the other people that you are working with.

I agree with Obed.
People can have wisdom without being educated. And if someone has less money or is not as educated, they should not be treated differently.


When I was younger i liked to be an annoying little kid to some poeple because i wanted to be apart of the persons conversation, and the people that i bugged never wanted to hang out with me so now that im older theirs a little kid i know and he gugs me like crazy hes like a pice of gun stuck to me but im have to be pacient and i never tell thim nothing to her his fellings. All i do to the kid is try and be cool with him becuse i know how i felt when i wanted to be with some one and they didnt want to hang out with me.

This situation also has to do with patience. I agree with how obed handles this situation. You have to realize that you were once young, and wanted to hang out with older kids too. You have to learn to have patience and also set a good example for the kid.

BaileyImus said...

1. The life lesson that Mortenson learned was to cherish everything and don’t rush. On page 150 Mortenson says “We Americans think you have to accomplish everything quickly. We’re the country of thirty-minute power lunches and two-minute football drills.” Haji Ali says “Share three cups of tea, to slow down and make building relationships as more important as building projects.” So we need to make better relationships with our coworkers so the project we build together will be better because we would be able to communicate better.

2. My life lesson is from my father and it is “If you have good credit, you can get whatever you want.” My dad has the best credit in his whole family and he has the best house and cars. He has set a great example for me and my sister and I want to have better credit than my dad!

3. I agree with Erica Mckensie and Obed, you just have to be patient in life. If you just give up then you won’t ever accomplish anything, so just have patience and you will accomplish everything.

Raymo said...

1. Mortenson learned that everything takes patience. In Korphe they have no schedule and no time to go by, they just get things done when they can. They felt that Mortenson was rushing them to build the school and was driving everyone mad.
2. Lately i have learned not to procrastinate. I used to procrastinate really bad and now that its coming down to the last few months of my high school career i have college things that need to get done.
3. Jesse Sheets- The important lesson that Greg learned was that you need to slow down and take time to do things. We Americans have to get everything done fast. I know this because the Greg said "We Americans think you have to acomplish things quickly. Were the country of 30 minute power lunches..." page 150.

I couldnt agree more with what Jesse said. In america we are always rushing to do things. You can tell by looking at rush hour traffic, you have the maniacs that will do anything to get one car ahead of you.

Dustin Judd said...
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Dustin Judd said...

1.I think Mortenson learned that even with someone who may have close to nothing can care about a cause enough to give just about everything he has to better that cause. Haji Ali showed Mortenson the true meaning of caring and respecting others and that is a lesson that we can all learn from.

2. My dad has taught me over the years that if I want anything in life I am going to have to work hard for it. He's given me a ton of opportunities to work, and from that work I have learned a little bit of how things are going to work when I am older and have a family.

Comment on Jake Grether
1. I agree with Jake that Haji Ali taught a valuable lesson to mortenson. I do agree with him that we all can learn from Ali's Actions in chapter 12.

2. I think Jakes life lesson story was very funny. I liked it when he put "that’s when I learned that I was mortal."

Nicole Cosentino said...

1. What life lesson did Mortenson learn from this uneducated, illiterate man he describes as the "wisest man I've ever met?" Your answer must use supporting statements taken from the text to defend your statements. Mortenson basically learned from Haji Ali just to simply slow everything down and enjoy the simple pleasures of life. He taught him that the relationships you build with people and the interesting and important things and life lessons you can learn from them are just as important as the things you are attempting to accomplish. In order for the things you are attempting to accomplish to even mean anything in the end, and for you to have learned anything in the end, you must slow it down and take things one at a time. Take time to get to know people.
2. Describe in detail a situation in your life where you have learned a valuable life lesson from another person, place or experience. My boyfriend Josh taught me a life lesson that I think is very valuable and has helped to mold me into a better person over the years we have been together. He taught me basically not to judge a book by its cover. He has helped me understand that if you make a swift judgment about something or someone, what you perceive is true about that person could be completely opposite from the truth. You could lose out on meeting a great person or doing something totally awesome just because you decide to judge and make it up in your mind that you don’t like that person or thing. This has really helped me meet some awesome people and do some things I normally wouldn’t and actually enjoy them.
3. After you have posted your answers to questions 1 & 2, read through other students comments and choose one to post a response back. List the name of the student you chose and comment back on both their answer to number 1 and their life lesson in number 2. Your response should support, elaborate on, or contradict the statement again using citings from the text and personal experiences. Desiree Badizadegan- Wow, the way you talked about the life lesson Haji Ali taught Mortenson was totally what I was thinking, I am just not as good as putting stuff into words as you are! That was beautiful! And your life lesson story was awesome and it is such an important life lesson! We do need to realize that there are people out there that are worse off than we are. It is good that you realize that, if more people did maybe we could help more people.

Erika Ziegler said...

1. The life lesson I believed Mortenson learned from Haji Ali is that he needs to learn to take things slow and embrace new relationships with others. American’s do things way to fast, with our “30 minute power lunches,” and finishing things so quickly.

2. A life lesson I have learned actually happened just last year from my wonderful teachers of CSB. I used to, and still do care way too much about the final letter grade on my report card. There have been times in my life where I have had classes and not obtained any knowledge from the class but still maintained an A in the class. Thanks to the class of CSB and especially the teachers I have learned and kept all the knowledge, while working even harder to get the grades I want, because in order to get those grades, I have to understand.

Crystal Stewart said...

Question 3.
Response to: Brandon Fry

1. I agree, building relationships with the people you are working with to complete a project is just as important as finishing the project.

2. I like this response, it's always nice to be reminded that we can change our attitudes if we are in a bad mood. I love also how he got this knowledge from his dad.

Courtney Strouse said...

1. Haji Ali taught Mortenson the importance of life and that it’s important to slow down and enjoy life. Page 150, talks about Mortenson realizing that Americans try to accomplish everything so fast, and realistically we can take our time.
2. “The more effort you put into something the better the outcome.” Through playing volleyball all four years of high school there were some major ups and downs. I learned that you will get what you deserve decided by the effort you put into achieving your goals.

Courtney Strouse said...

Desiree Badizadegan said...
"What you put into life is what you can get out of life." It's so true. I have always strived to be big and it's paying off.

Erika Ziegler said...

1. The life lesson I believed Mortenson learned from Haji Ali is that he needs to learn to take things slow and embrace new relationships with others. American’s do things way to fast, with our “30 minute power lunches,” and finishing things so quickly.

2. A life lesson I have learned actually happened just last year from my wonderful teachers of CSB. I used to, and still do care way too much about the final letter grade on my report card. There have been times in my life where I have had classes and not obtained any knowledge from the class but still maintained an A in the class. Thanks to the class of CSB and especially the teachers I have learned and kept all the knowledge, while working even harder to get the grades I want, because in order to get those grades, I have to understand.

Kaylie Lush

1. The life lesson that Haji Ali taught Mortenson was probably one that is most useful and wise because it showed Mortenson that he was pushing the people of Korphe in the American fast pace style ('We Americans think you have to accomplish everything quickly'). If Mortenson slowed down and took in the importance of other peoples' knowledge he would have realized their methods and traditions were to be learned from ('The first time you have tea with a Balti you are a stranger. The second time you are an honored guest. And the third time you share a cup of tea, you are family'). If Mortenson respected the methods of the Korphe villagers he could have realized the slower you go the more you learn.
I believe that Mortenson called Haji Ali the wisest man he had ever met because Ali noticed and observed things about people and life in general that Mortenson would have never noticed. Also that Ali saw people in this pure way and in the way of three cups of tea, treated a person as family only after three cups.
2. My life lesson relates to Mortensons' in that when working in a group or as a team their always tends to be a person that tries to get everyone to do things their way. I learned that if I do tasks my own way and time I can do them to a higher quality and faster than in someone else's way.

My Response:

I think that Kaylie’s description of Haji Ali’s lesson is phenomenal and relates a lot to what I said. Her choices of quotes throughout her response tie together her opinion very nicely.

I agree in the fact that there usually is a designated leader while working in a team, but I can find myself personally working just as well in a team as I can on my own depending on if jobs are assigned properly and fairly and the leader of the team allows others to work just as much. I think it is important to work well in a team and work off other’s ideas, even if you think your ideas may be better, the team as a whole needs to come to a consensus.

V!Nc3nt FE31ey said...

1. Haji Ali taught Mortenson to “slow down” and “build relationships” with those you care about rather than rush to complete a project that mean little to you. He had “more to learn from the people he works with than he could ever hope to teach them.”

2. Hope prevails through all trials.
I find throughout life that many obstacles will head my way. The easiest way to deal with these obstacles would be to give up. However, this is not the way that I was taught to live my life. Personally, I pride myself in finding ways to view a situation, whatever it may be, to view it through the eyes of hope.

Desiree Badizadegan:

1. He learned the lesson that he had more to learn from the people he works with than he could ever hope to teach them. He learned that life is a give and take situation. You might want to teach someone something, but they might want to teach you something. You can't be closed minded, and not willing to listen to what other people have to say. Haji Ali also taught him to slow down and make building relationships as important as building projects. This means that he should worry about the people as well as the outcome of their work.
2. My family likes to travel a lot, and one of the destinations we go to most is Mexico. Some of the cities there are so poor, and the residents don't have any place to live. It has taught me that I (as well as all other Americans (from the US) have a much better life than most people in countries outside of the United States. We take everything for granted here, and not many people seem to see that we have it easy compared to others.

My Response:

1. I find that our views are similar, due to the fact that we find similar meaning in the quote. She stated that building relationships is as important as building projects, which is a view I also share.
2. I agree that we take advantage of so many of the opportunities that we have here in America, which is different than the lifestyle of third world countries, due to the fact that they have almost nothing to live on and live so humbly in the circumstances that they are presented with.

Bailey Burfield said...

I think Mortenson learned that life should'nt be rushed you should enjoy each minute with patience. I think he also learned to take the time to listen to each person and respect their lifestyle "The third time you share a cup of tea you become family."(pg. 150)

My parents have repeatedly taught me to be respectful and nice to every person no matter what and that alone will further you in life.

Bailey Burfield said...

1. Sarah Mete "I believe that Mortenson learned that intelligence isn't always knowledge accumulated from books and that there are many types of intelligence. Even though Haji Ali was uneducated and illiterate, Mortenson still learned a vast amount from this loyal individual. One thing he displayed to Mortenson was that Americans are known for completing tasks at a fast pace and are only focused on quantity rather than quality. The book states"

I chose to respond to Sarahs comment because I also felt the same way. Just because Haji Ali could not read does'nt mean was'nt smart. He was wise in life which many Americans rush into life without taking the time to think.

2."I would consider myself to be a competitive person and I enjoying winning. When participating in gymnastics I would dedicate my time to practicing and striving for the top of the podium. During a meet in Santa Barbara I was competing against more girls and ended up falling short of my goal. However, my coach asked if I was satisfied with my performance rather than score. After reviewing my progress up until the meet and performance during the meet I realized I was content with myself.

This experience made me realize that winning isn't everything and that one shouldb't just focus on the prize. One should value their progress and be happy with their accomplishments, even if its not first place."

I also agree with the lesson she has learned. You must be content with yourself before you can be happy with others.

Luke_McLean said...

1. I think Mortenson learned to just slow down, take it easy and not be so uptight and bossy. Haji Ali was right, they went 500 years without a school and I think we can live through 1 more winter without one.
2. I learned this from just self experience and my job at Sonic from my manager. If you respect me I'll respect you. And I do believe that quote does work. if you treat someone nice and with respect, they should do the same to you, although thats not the case with some people.
3. Jon Bryant
Mortenson learned that just because he is the boss doesn't mean he has to get it all done right away, "There has been no school here for over 500 years, we can live 1 more winter."
said, Haji.
he learned to just sit back and let the workers get the job done, just have 3 cups of tea and relax, it will be done.
"later that year the wall on the school had grown much taller." from book.

I often think like this. Take your time at doing something and don't be so uptight, sometimes its just best to let things unfold as they were meant to. Sadly that doesn't go for school work.
From cross country I learned a very worth while life lesson. "What you put into life is what you can get out of life." What that means to me is you can't just go through life and not expect to give anything, love, money, time, effort etc. Like in Cross Country or any other sport you have to go to practice and push yourself to the limit you can take just to get through the work out or to better yourself. Same as in school you have to put in reports and work, time, just to succeed.

I agree with Jon fully, if you don't put in any effort or at least try, you shouldn't get anything back. But then again, some people get away with being naturally gifted at sports and getting lucky, but they don't deserve it.

Benny said...

1. Mortensons life lesson in my opinion is that he learned was to take things slow. People in Afghanistan aren’t in a rush all the time to get things done. They take their time in what they do and they have patience. That is a very valuable life skill.

2. One of the most valuable life lessons I have learned is that it doesn’t take money and riches to make someone happy, people have gotten by with the riches for centuries and when comes down to it all you need is love, peace and happiness. My life lesson was when I went on a mission trip to Canada with my church, we went to Prince Rupert. The area is made up of middle and lower class housing and most of the people that came to the mission were just happy to be alive and be there, I learn that religious belief is all I need to be happy in this world.